September 17, 2018
The anniversary of the Lehman Brother’s collapse is coming up. I keep hearing about the ten year recession cycle and that anniversary is symbolically looming large in my mind.
That was my first recession as an adult and I didn’t really know anything about recession cycles or how the market functions – nothing! All I knew was the financial world had come crashing down, my favorite bank (WAMU) had been eaten, the banks were dropping like flies, and that I didn’t know enough about stocks to make smart picks during the tumult. I did know enough to buy BRK-B at the first buying opportunity but I had so little money at that time I bought less than ten shares. Still I bought them and they’ve doubled in value so that was one good decision made in near total ignorance.
I’ve been thinking a lot about how to “recession proof” our lives and our portfolios. This time around, we’re incredibly lucky to have been able to build up a solid foundation already. I’ve still got a bit to learn but the basic outlines are relatively clear to me. We’re personally at least a decade or more away from FIRE even with a bull market so overall we need to stay aggressively invested to build up our wealth. We added some bond funds for stability recently but I’m still thinking about how much we need in bonds to endure a bear market in good health.
Several scenarios come to mind:
(A) a recession with an extended bear market but no job loss,
(B) a bear market + recession + 1 job loss,
and (C) a bear market + recession + both jobs lost.
In scenario A, in theory, I want to have cash on hand to buy more stocks / stock funds as their prices drop. This is assuming that we’re still making decent incomes and expenses stay the same – our savings would remain intact and we’d have cash flow to invest with.
In practice, I need to think about where my purchases should be made (individual stocks that bear dividends vs stock funds) ahead of time so when the prices are dropping during a stressful time, I won’t be irrational and go ostrich. With a buying plan, I’ll actually buy. Without one, I’d hunker down and miss out on good pricing.
Jonathan’s stress test, as a person looking to live off his portfolio for another 40 years, is also a useful thought process though he is far more heavily invested in bonds since he’s further along the process.
In scenario B, we would have to stop saving and investing to make up for the lost cash flow. Mind, we’d have lost half our income (at least) so we’d only be diverting savings from the remaining income. In any case, no cash flow would be available for buying but I could make an argument for diverting a bit of money to buy at low prices. Depending on which of us loses our job, we could also lose childcare which is linked to a job so that reduces one large expense in addition to creating a bit of logistical difficulty job hunting and minding JB at the same time. I’m not factoring in unemployment income specifically because I don’t know how much we could draw and how long it would last. It would simply be plugged in to cover non optional expenses if it does exist.
In scenario C, we start drawing down our savings to cover expenses and slash any optional expenses until we have a new job. We have 1 year in cash and CDs and 6 months in bond funds. Naturally, we would have to make cuts to variable / disposable income type expenses but we don’t have a ton of those. If we lost both our jobs, I would hope that 18 months would let us weather being between jobs but there’s part of me that still worries it’s not enough. I remember how long it took to get another job last time and it’s infinitely more stressful with two adults job hunting and swapping childcare. I’d still be able to do some mini gigs, probably, but that’s really minor income stacked against our expenses.
If we were in a different (better) place financially, I would take a job loss as an opportunity to take a real sabbatical but we’re not in that place yet. I keep looking at our circumstances to find ways we can do better and get to that place but we won’t be there in the next two years.
:: What are your plans for weathering a recession?
September 10, 2018
Sometimes insomnia pricks me badly and I’m not able to sleep even after reading two or three books. I used to be really good at sleep hygiene but the combination of being tired and too tired to sleep overrides the usual tactics.
So I lay awake browsing, trying to find that last bit of something to read that will let my brain relax and say ok, sleepiness! Come in!
All the time hoping and hoping that it won’t take three, four, or five hours. A preschooler, two jobs, and two dogs have no mercy for a mom who failed at sleeping again. Who fails at sleeping?? Who wakes up with new injuries from sleeping?? Not only me, I can tell you that much.
This night I took to writing. This post, and the beginnings of ideas for some freelance work. I shake out my brain for more freelance ideas. I check on sleeping JB and give zir a quick cuddle. Pet the dogs, scratch PiC’s back gently. Finally admit that the uncertainty at our jobs that’s been gnawing away at us is getting to me. I’m worrying about pennies again. I’m worrying about bringing in some extra dollars against the lean days, worrying about wanting to grow our family when we can scarcely afford all the priorities on our plates, worrying about if we could even choose to do that if we let ourselves want it. I’m repressing even the knowledge of what I really want, again, because of money, again, and that’s telling my body it’s the bad ole times, again.
My body responds, predictably. It tightens up. It doesn’t let me sleep. It says ok, stay awake, plan your way out of this mess! (more…)
August 29, 2018
A friend recently asked how I control spending. That’s both a simple and complicated answer.
If we’re just talking about the literal HOW DO YOU DO IT, these are the technical steps that I take:
First up is willpower! This is the weakest of the ways. Willpower is finite.
Depending on how challenging your days or your life feels, it can be so limited as to feel non-existent! I understand this: if you return to The Precious ten times and say no ten times, that’s 9 other times that you could have been saying no to something else or exercising better judgment.
However, it’s the most important initial set of brakes on the impulse to buy. Once I say no the first time and it pings my consciousness again, then I push it to the next step.
Sometimes I’m fresh out of willpower but I have just enough energy to pull out the credit card. Oh let’s not pretend I don’t have that card number memorized. I do.
So let’s say I don’t even have willpower or the precious little left needs to be preserved. Call in the reinforcements!
These pretty sparkly pretty (sparkly!) Star Wars flats lured me in ….
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August 22, 2018
One of my long-standing bastions of money irrationality has finally fallen! It’s been a long time coming and I’m very proud of making the progress, finding the emotional maturity and steadiness, needed to take it down.
This is the change in my money management that I alluded to a while ago.
I’m incredibly risk averse and conservative in my money management. This trait (habit?) goes waaaay back.
I was once a workaholic, wrapped up in building my career and scrutinizing every single move and communique like it might have hidden gold or a secret message for success because every penny mattered. Because I had to support a family even before crossing the threshold to adulthood, at age 17, any money that I earned went to paying down debt and building up a basic savings account instead of investing in a Roth IRA. I had to keep cash on hand at all times because there was always something going wrong: someone got sick, my trainwreck sibling had run up another utility bill, an endless stream of flat tires, dental emergency, or more dental issues.
Obviously, after many long, tough years of working and saving, I made it through that period. But also just as obviously, I bear the scars which translate to being even more risk averse. At this point in time, I’m highly concerned about the possibility of a recession in the next few years, as well as highly concerned about our job security. There’s always been a question mark over my job, but recently one has been hung over PiC’s job, and that brought all of my fears back to the fore.
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August 13, 2018
Within a 6 mile radius, we have 6 food sources. There’s something good at ALL OF THEM. Every single one has things that the other stores don’t and it’s led to some real inefficiencies. Three stores in a week is too much.
Costco
Things we buy and use in bulk: sliced cheese, bread, yogurt, my beloved white corn tortillas, green beans for 50 cents a can for the dogs,
Trader Joe’s
Can’t get anywhere else: sardines and glucosamine for Seamus, $3/lb ground turkey, $4 cauliflower pizza crust
Asian market
Can’t get anywhere else: very cheap specialty produce (snow peas, snap peas, peeled garlic), dried squid treats, my favorite rice crackers.
Sprouts
Can’t get anywhere else: my probiotics, regular sales on frozen shrimp, bulk staples (flour, sugar, nuts, some grains)
Safeway
Can’t get anywhere else: standard staples like generic soda flavors (used for cooking), egg noodles (which I guess doesn’t matter for me anymore since I can’t have them)
Local produce shop
Can’t get anywhere else: The cheapest and freshest produce. (more…)
July 16, 2018
While talking to Penny about debt repayment resources, I kept thinking of other bloggers who are focused on debt repayment. Debt was my old life, we’re building resources now – but …. but, wait, we are in debt! Somehow in the last six months, I stopped thinking of myself as in debt. Except I regularly say that we don’t own this house, the bank does, so how did I forget that we owe a TON of money and therefore are in debt repayment hell?
$576,006.92
After a big down payment, and a few payments to principal, we still owe more than half a million dollars. HALF. A. MILLION.
How on earth did that morph into “just another bill”??
For reasons.
One, we’ve always had some kind of monthly payment for lodgings: rent or mortgage. It’s a normal part of our lives the way a car payment used to be. (Not anymore!)
Two, while we’re employed, we make enough to pay the regularly agreed amounts plus a little bit extra every month on time. That’s a whole other world from where I came from.
Because of numbers one and two, three, debt elimination hasn’t been my sole focus. I’ve also been working on investing wisely and building our careers.
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July 9, 2018

FIREcracker says don’t give your kids money and let them fail if you want them to succeed.
That’s similar to my core parenting tenets.
I will save JB’s life when ze is choking or about to pelt over the edge of a cliff.
I don’t spare zir the bumps, bruises, scrapes and scratches that happen when you run pell mell through life without your feet under you. Ze takes after me so won’t ever be graceful but eventually ze will learn to stop falling so much. BY FALLING SO MUCH.
I just stopped being the biggest klutz in town at age 35 so I could send zir to gymnastics lessons for fun and an attempt to learn some physical balance, but my guess? Ze will just be pretty good at the sport and STILL go through life collecting bruises like Mario Coins. Fine. Bruises won’t kill you.
Back to the point – there’s more nuance to this whole parenting thing. We are saving a bundle for zir college education even while I’m hesitant to commit to paying for all of it because I think ze needs skin in the game. At the same time, I know what life was like when I had to work all through college – I barely remember anything I learned.
The reality is, if we’re doing our jobs right, ze will very likely have some resources inherited from us or from one of many grandparents. We must teach zir to fend for zirself, making a living wage, saving, investing, and making good decisions. In short, have the skills to survive without money coming from anyone else. But I also want zir to have the skills and discipline when resources are plentiful and not live in short-termism.
Some people are naturally frugal, some people learn it. If JB is the latter, the lessons should come from us – we have the knowledge. It would be a massive failure on our part not to try to pass along the lessons and philosophies that create the life that ze lives now.
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